Comments on: Can the last person leaving Facebook turn out the lights? http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/ ...even a dice can roll Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:06:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Kein Abschied für immer: Die Facebook Fessel | Werbeblogger - Weblog über Marketing, Werbung und PR » Blog Archiv » Kein Abschied für immer: Die Facebook Fessel http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-21227 Kein Abschied für immer: Die Facebook Fessel | Werbeblogger - Weblog über Marketing, Werbung und PR » Blog Archiv » Kein Abschied für immer: Die Facebook Fessel Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:47:01 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-21227 [...] Soeben wollte ich meinen Facebook-Account löschen. Nicht nur wegen des heftigen (und umstrittenen) Guardian-Artikels und der heranrollenden Austrittswelle, sondern eigentlich nur, weil ich dem Kaiser alles nachahmen muss. Er ist schließlich der Ranghöchste in der Monarchiekette. Doch jetzt mal ernsthaft. Mir ist es noch nicht einmal möglich, mein Profil, meine eingestellten Daten, meine Aktivitäten, die ich auf der Plattform getätigt habe, dauerhaft zu löschen. Nein, ich darf das lediglich “deaktivieren” (darf also jederzeit wieder kommen und alles ist wieder beim Alten), aber entfernen oder löschen ist nicht. Das alles bleibt schön in den Händen der Zeit- und Datenkrake Facebook, die natürlich auch mit toten Accounts noch Geld verdienen möchte. [...] [...] Soeben wollte ich meinen Facebook-Account löschen. Nicht nur wegen des heftigen (und umstrittenen) Guardian-Artikels und der heranrollenden Austrittswelle, sondern eigentlich nur, weil ich dem Kaiser alles nachahmen muss. Er ist schließlich der Ranghöchste in der Monarchiekette. Doch jetzt mal ernsthaft. Mir ist es noch nicht einmal möglich, mein Profil, meine eingestellten Daten, meine Aktivitäten, die ich auf der Plattform getätigt habe, dauerhaft zu löschen. Nein, ich darf das lediglich “deaktivieren” (darf also jederzeit wieder kommen und alles ist wieder beim Alten), aber entfernen oder löschen ist nicht. Das alles bleibt schön in den Händen der Zeit- und Datenkrake Facebook, die natürlich auch mit toten Accounts noch Geld verdienen möchte. [...]

]]> By: NiaLLLarkin http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-20620 NiaLLLarkin Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:42:34 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-20620 @dc crowley I agree. Social communication in mediated spaces is at an early stage of its overall evolution. Facebook's successes and problems have done a great deal to show us the way to the next stage of evolution. Facebook has done nothing to advance the underlying architectural design blueprint handed down from sixdegrees thru friendster, tribe, linkedin, myspace, bebo etc. However Twitter and the like have, albeit incrementally introduced to shades of advancement. I do watch and hope facebook do something really exciting as they are the best positioned company in the world to advance this space right now. But have to say that our visit over there in December didn't give me much reason to hold out hope. They appear to be very stronly focused on 'rearranging the deckchairs' rather than reappraising the fundamentals. Still you can never tell. @dc crowley I agree. Social communication in mediated spaces is at an early stage of its overall evolution. Facebook’s successes and problems have done a great deal to show us the way to the next stage of evolution.

Facebook has done nothing to advance the underlying architectural design blueprint handed down from sixdegrees thru friendster, tribe, linkedin, myspace, bebo etc.

However Twitter and the like have, albeit incrementally introduced to shades of advancement.

I do watch and hope facebook do something really exciting as they are the best positioned company in the world to advance this space right now. But have to say that our visit over there in December didn’t give me much reason to hold out hope. They appear to be very stronly focused on ‘rearranging the deckchairs’ rather than reappraising the fundamentals. Still you can never tell.

]]> By: dc crowley http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-20571 dc crowley Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:54:53 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-20571 My enthusiasm for facebook is a bit up and down at the moment. Two points though. It is new, it can't be perfect and they seem to listen at least sometimes. I am not leaving Facebook. But there is one important reason why I am staying put. I want to social network in this way and there is nothing better yet. I am getting the hang of dealing with stupid apps. etc. But as a network of contacts it works for me. I don't get a lot of pointless friendship requests. What works for me does not have to work for you. But remember this stuff is in an infancy stage. Facebook are pushing to see what is possible. Some of it works and other stuff does not. Just my 2 cents. My enthusiasm for facebook is a bit up and down at the moment. Two points though. It is new, it can’t be perfect and they seem to listen at least sometimes. I am not leaving Facebook. But there is one important reason why I am staying put. I want to social network in this way and there is nothing better yet. I am getting the hang of dealing with stupid apps. etc.

But as a network of contacts it works for me. I don’t get a lot of pointless friendship requests. What works for me does not have to work for you. But remember this stuff is in an infancy stage. Facebook are pushing to see what is possible. Some of it works and other stuff does not. Just my 2 cents.

]]> By: NiaLLLarkin http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-20563 NiaLLLarkin Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:20:44 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-20563 @John Handelaar I couldn't agree more. You certainly risk looking like a right cock to go about loudly announcing 'this is shit' before leaving a party :) Just to be fair to the guys mentioned though none of them announced that they were leaving (afaik at least). While on twitter I asked Pat Phelan if he'd gone very quiet on Facebook lately and he told me he'd actually quit. Robin Blandford overheard the original question and said he doesn't use it so much. Then James and Alan and a few others started to add that they'd never really been big on it. It was just one of those things when an innocent question was asked and a here-to-fore silent consensus got aired. I assume it was silent up to that point because all of the above would agree that announcing their feelings loudly before leaving would have made them look like right pricks. @John Handelaar I couldn’t agree more. You certainly risk looking like a right cock to go about loudly announcing ‘this is shit’ before leaving a party :) Just to be fair to the guys mentioned though none of them announced that they were leaving (afaik at least). While on twitter I asked Pat Phelan if he’d gone very quiet on Facebook lately and he told me he’d actually quit. Robin Blandford overheard the original question and said he doesn’t use it so much. Then James and Alan and a few others started to add that they’d never really been big on it. It was just one of those things when an innocent question was asked and a here-to-fore silent consensus got aired. I assume it was silent up to that point because all of the above would agree that announcing their feelings loudly before leaving would have made them look like right pricks.

]]> By: John Handelaar http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-20526 John Handelaar Wed, 16 Jan 2008 02:11:23 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-20526 Conversely, if you're at a party and someone you weren't really paying any attention to gets up and loudly announces that this is shit and he's leaving, you're quite likely to hear someone say "Christ, what a cock" when the door closes behind him. To others considering this: Leave, or don't leave. Fine. Just shut up about it, because nobody but you gives a stuff. Conversely, if you’re at a party and someone you weren’t really paying any attention to gets up and loudly announces that this is shit and he’s leaving, you’re quite likely to hear someone say “Christ, what a cock” when the door closes behind him.

To others considering this: Leave, or don’t leave. Fine. Just shut up about it, because nobody but you gives a stuff.

]]> By: Robin Blandford http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-20489 Robin Blandford Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:24:26 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-20489 I wouldn't say I lost interest. I just don't think I ever had it. I enjoyed playing with FB as a developer, and will probably continue to do so if I have a relevant app. I also enjoy having my non-tech friends add photos as they haven't been able to do it in one place elsewhere. But I never (v rarely ever) make wall posts, drawings, status updates, comments, or any sort of personal/messaging updates through it. I do add people from work or who I meet - just so I can sometimes remember their account for later but really.. I use it as a Keyhole for spying. ;-) I wouldn’t say I lost interest. I just don’t think I ever had it.

I enjoyed playing with FB as a developer, and will probably continue to do so if I have a relevant app. I also enjoy having my non-tech friends add photos as they haven’t been able to do it in one place elsewhere. But I never (v rarely ever) make wall posts, drawings, status updates, comments, or any sort of personal/messaging updates through it.

I do add people from work or who I meet - just so I can sometimes remember their account for later but really..

I use it as a Keyhole for spying.

;-)

]]> By: Alan O'Rourke http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/2008/01/15/can-the-last-person-leaving-facebook-turn-out-the-lights/#comment-20485 Alan O'Rourke Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:56:59 +0000 http://www.niall-larkin.com/blog/?p=125#comment-20485 Have to say i was never a fan of facebook in the first place and rarely used it. Have to say i was never a fan of facebook in the first place and rarely used it.

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